Comments on: NAMB Trustee Beginnings… http://sbcimpact.org/2009/07/10/namb-trustee-beginnings/ life :: theology :: church :: ministry :: missions :: worship Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:40:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Roger Simpson http://sbcimpact.org/2009/07/10/namb-trustee-beginnings/#comment-16386 Roger Simpson Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:18:36 +0000 http://www.sbcimpact.net/?p=3482#comment-16386 Dave: Please send me an email. I'd like be able to communicate a little "offline". It is too soon right now to say for sure, but I might attend the BoT meeting in Denver. My e-mail is rksimpson1@cox.net Roger Simpson Oklahoma City OK Dave:

Please send me an email. I’d like be able to communicate a little “offline”.

It is too soon right now to say for sure, but I might attend the BoT meeting in Denver.

My e-mail is

rksimpson1@cox.net

Roger Simpson
Oklahoma City OK

]]> By: Dave Samples http://sbcimpact.org/2009/07/10/namb-trustee-beginnings/#comment-16385 Dave Samples Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:19:54 +0000 http://www.sbcimpact.net/?p=3482#comment-16385 Roger, October 5-7, 2009: Denver, Colorado February 16-17, 2010: Alpharetta, Georgia May 17-19, 2010: Shawnee Mission, Kansas October 18-20, 2010: Los Angeles, California I'm thinking that I will not see you in Denver... Roger,

October 5-7, 2009: Denver, Colorado
February 16-17, 2010: Alpharetta, Georgia
May 17-19, 2010: Shawnee Mission, Kansas
October 18-20, 2010: Los Angeles, California

I’m thinking that I will not see you in Denver…

]]> By: Roger Simpson http://sbcimpact.org/2009/07/10/namb-trustee-beginnings/#comment-16384 Roger Simpson Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:13:59 +0000 http://www.sbcimpact.net/?p=3482#comment-16384 Dave: I admit those documents are now dated, but they do serve as a good "wakeup call" of the type of things that can happen. Thanks for being willing to serve! BTW, where is the next BoT meeting of the NAMB? If it is within 300 miles from me I might show up. Roger Simpson Oklahoma City OK Dave:

I admit those documents are now dated, but they do serve as a good “wakeup call” of the type of things that can happen.

Thanks for being willing to serve! BTW, where is the next BoT meeting of the NAMB? If it is within 300 miles from me I might show up.

Roger Simpson
Oklahoma City OK

]]> By: Dave Samples http://sbcimpact.org/2009/07/10/namb-trustee-beginnings/#comment-16383 Dave Samples Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:55:02 +0000 http://www.sbcimpact.net/?p=3482#comment-16383 Blake, I hear you. I would like to see as many CP dollars as possible making their way to the mission field. Those dollars are limited meaning that even if you get them--they are not going to be enough to fully fund a church-plant. Relaxing the rules would provide more qualified church-planters but unless more dollars are given there would be fewer dollars available for each plant. Blake,

I hear you. I would like to see as many CP dollars as possible making their way to the mission field. Those dollars are limited meaning that even if you get them–they are not going to be enough to fully fund a church-plant. Relaxing the rules would provide more qualified church-planters but unless more dollars are given there would be fewer dollars available for each plant.

]]> By: Blake http://sbcimpact.org/2009/07/10/namb-trustee-beginnings/#comment-16382 Blake Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:49:25 +0000 http://www.sbcimpact.net/?p=3482#comment-16382 Sorry, meant to say: "The point of the Cooperative program is that churches cooperate to provide the funding so the burden is <b>*NOT*</b> so large for the local church." Sorry, meant to say: “The point of the Cooperative program is that churches cooperate to provide the funding so the burden is *NOT* so large for the local church.”

]]> By: Blake http://sbcimpact.org/2009/07/10/namb-trustee-beginnings/#comment-16381 Blake Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:45:16 +0000 http://www.sbcimpact.net/?p=3482#comment-16381 The point of the Cooperative program is that churches cooperate to provide the funding so the burden is so large for the local church. When a church plant has no other means but being funded by other churches outside of the cooperative program then those churches are not being able to spend money on whatever ministries God has given them priority to do. I'm not against churches funding church plants directly. I think that can be a great spiritual practice for the church. However, these legalistic rules are hindering the spread of the Gospel. Not only is money not going as far and wide but the local church budgets become strained to make the difference. If the cooperative program is able to give more then the local church can give less and give more to the priorities God gives which may or may not include these church plants. The point of the Cooperative program is that churches cooperate to provide the funding so the burden is so large for the local church. When a church plant has no other means but being funded by other churches outside of the cooperative program then those churches are not being able to spend money on whatever ministries God has given them priority to do. I’m not against churches funding church plants directly. I think that can be a great spiritual practice for the church. However, these legalistic rules are hindering the spread of the Gospel. Not only is money not going as far and wide but the local church budgets become strained to make the difference. If the cooperative program is able to give more then the local church can give less and give more to the priorities God gives which may or may not include these church plants.

]]> By: Dave Samples http://sbcimpact.org/2009/07/10/namb-trustee-beginnings/#comment-16380 Dave Samples Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:43:56 +0000 http://www.sbcimpact.net/?p=3482#comment-16380 Blake, I agree with what Steve Young said in comment #23, "I do know that the requirements to receive funding are tight (some say legalistic) but I believe that NAMB policies have tried to follow the will of the convention as expressed through Resolutions, BFM, etc." I appreciate the struggle of some to receive funding outside of those guidelines and yet I also realize that there are a great many churches who are willing to self-fund church plants without any denominational assistance whatsoever. I can only speak for my church and affirm that we will support our members (fully if necessary) when they are being led into ministry enterprises. In fact, when it comes to church planting, I'm fairly confident that we would prefer to self-fund in order to avoid the red-tape. Blake,

I agree with what Steve Young said in comment #23, “I do know that the requirements to receive funding are tight (some say legalistic) but I believe that NAMB policies have tried to follow the will of the convention as expressed through Resolutions, BFM, etc.” I appreciate the struggle of some to receive funding outside of those guidelines and yet I also realize that there are a great many churches who are willing to self-fund church plants without any denominational assistance whatsoever. I can only speak for my church and affirm that we will support our members (fully if necessary) when they are being led into ministry enterprises. In fact, when it comes to church planting, I’m fairly confident that we would prefer to self-fund in order to avoid the red-tape.

]]> By: Dave Samples http://sbcimpact.org/2009/07/10/namb-trustee-beginnings/#comment-16379 Dave Samples Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:14:12 +0000 http://www.sbcimpact.net/?p=3482#comment-16379 Roger, I have printed out all of the documents that you referenced and will read through them. I am certainly aware of the story but I have never read the things that you have referenced first hand. Thanks. Roger,

I have printed out all of the documents that you referenced and will read through them. I am certainly aware of the story but I have never read the things that you have referenced first hand. Thanks.

]]> By: Dave Samples http://sbcimpact.org/2009/07/10/namb-trustee-beginnings/#comment-16378 Dave Samples Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:09:16 +0000 http://www.sbcimpact.net/?p=3482#comment-16378 Steve, I also have experience in Montana and Wyoming. Until recently my father was attending a church in Helena. I spent much of my growing-up years in Montana, the Dakotas, and Wyoming. Sounds like God is doing some great things through your leadership. Steve,

I also have experience in Montana and Wyoming. Until recently my father was attending a church in Helena. I spent much of my growing-up years in Montana, the Dakotas, and Wyoming.

Sounds like God is doing some great things through your leadership.

]]> By: Dave Samples http://sbcimpact.org/2009/07/10/namb-trustee-beginnings/#comment-16377 Dave Samples Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:05:49 +0000 http://www.sbcimpact.net/?p=3482#comment-16377 Tom, Thank you so much! I look forward to meeting you. Perhaps we can meet when I attend the orientation next month. Tom,

Thank you so much! I look forward to meeting you. Perhaps we can meet when I attend the orientation next month.

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