I’m Learning to Give…
Posted by Dave Samples in Church & Missions
I met last week with a very discouraged pastor in our association who shared with me of his church’s decline and of the fact that his church had not been able to pay his salary for some time. I mentioned his situation to our congregation on Sunday morning and suggested that offerings could be given to bless this pastor if individuals felt the Holy Spirit’s leadership. I met with this pastor again yesterday and handed him a check for $5,185.
A similar thing happened a few months ago when I shared with our church the financial difficulties that our mother church was having. Our text for the day was Acts 11:27-30 that discloses how the Antioch church collected an offering to send back to the Jerusalem church to assist with the coming famine. Though I did not specifically ask for an offering to be given, I was able to deliver to the pastor of our founding church a check for almost $11,000.
How does this happen? Simply put, we have allowed God to create among us a spirit of gracious and generous care. It really has less to do with stewardship and more to do with love (1 Corinthians 13). Our people for the most part do not give out of religious duty but rather out of their relationship with Jesus. It might surprise you to know that I do not regularly teach our people to tithe. Rather, I teach our people to give. I encourage our folks to be prepared to give their offerings to meet needs that they might encounter on the way to church (James 2:14-17). I’ve taught our people that God is greatly honored when we use our tithe to buy food for the hungry (Malachi 3:10-12). I’ve taught our people that when they give their fish and loaves—God will then provide for the multitude (Matthew 14:13-21). You may ask, “But aren’t you afraid that people won’t give through the church?” To the contrary, I understand that the people ARE the church. “But how will you meet ongoing expenses of the building, the staff, and the ministries?” My friends, God has already promised to take care of that—it’s not my worry! (Philippians 4:19).
More important I suppose than even the amount of the gift is the spirit in which the gift is given (Luke 21:1). I ask our people NOT to give if they are aware of broken relationships that need mending (Matthew 5:23-24). I encourage offerings to be withheld if the gift is being given begrudgingly, pride fully, or even disobediently (Acts 5:1-11). I ask our people before we receive our offering to listen carefully for the Spirit’s direction in giving and to obey even if it means tearing up a check and writing a new one for more or less—or nothing at all. God may require a gift that does not involve money. He may ask for anything and everything including relationships, problems, jobs, families, attitudes, addictions, virtues and vices (Psalm 51:16-17).
This gracious spirit has enveloped our church in the ways in which we do ministry. We never charge for anything that the church does. We never charge anyone for using our facility whether it’s a wedding, a funeral, civic club, birthday party, etc. In fact, we encourage the community to come and use our building for free. You may ask, “But don’t you incur extra expenses when groups use your building?” Yes, we do. That’s just one of the costs of being Jesus to our community. At present we have dozens of groups (outside of our church) that use our facility regularly—including some other churches.
Finally, let me close by reminding you that I pastor a rather small church in Colorado (less than 300 worshippers). Our budget is not huge (about $370,000). We have some debt and we struggle at times to pay for everything that we would like to do. We don’t always get it right! However, God has yet to fail us! His promises are true! I write today in an attempt to encourage any of you who may be discouraged financially. I want to remind you of principles that we all know and teach and yet may not fully implement within the living organism called the church. Perhaps, if nothing else, this will spark a discussion on how churches operate financially.
Teach those who are rich in this world not to be proud and not to trust in their money, which is so unreliable. Their trust should be in God, who richly gives us all we need for our enjoyment. Tell them to use their money to do good. They should be rich in good works and generous to those in need, always being ready to share with others. By doing this they will be storing up their treasure as a good foundation for the future so that they may experience true life (1 Timothy 6:17-19, NLT).



We open the doors for neighborhood subdivision meetings, since we’re in the neighborhood, why would we not? I would encourage other fellowships to do the same. I like how you guys keep your doors open for so many groups. What are some of the groups that do use your facility? I need some ideas so our fellowship can be pro-active.
In regards to giving, we simply have an offering box in our sanctuary. It would be interesting to know how other folks do it. Finally, it’s refreshing to see other congregations seeking good works to do (which have already been prepared in advance).
John in St. Louis
I love what you are doing here, John. Awesome. Love the “open door” policy. I do not like it when churches are unwelcoming to the community. Will non-believers abuse it? Very likely, but so what? We need to learn to DEAL WITH IT and be Christlike. Great post.
John, we have home-owners associations, a home school group, girl scouts, political groups, a Bible study from a Presbyterian church plant, a food distribution group, and a disaster relief committee. Youth sports teams use our facility for meetings and banquets. We have a hispanic seminary that holds classes in our building.
We have occassionally used the offering box idea–without the box. We put our offering plates in the back of the room. Interestingly, some of our largest budget offerings have been received at the very same time that we have received large love offerings. I consider it proof of God’s blessing…
Bernard, I want to be careful not to demean any churches that do not operate this way but rather to encourage all to take a prayerful look at how the scriptures deal with church finance. For us, our giving has increased the graciousness of our church which ultimately has made us more effective in evangelism. Those things that are sometimes hard to measure have been positively impacted by our giving: the spirit of forgiveness, unity, inclusiveness, care, etc.
Re: the discouraged pastor. Helping him out was great; it’s always encouraging when congregations think beyond their own church. I’m still thinking about this guy who’s just not making it financially.
It seems to me some pastors go to one extreme or the other: quitting too early and leaving a church just because things got a little rough or hanging on too long trying to keep alive a dead group of people and not caring for their own family.
How do you help someone decide when to hang on and when to see this as a hint to move on?
Bowden, excellent question! I’m a student of the Henry Blackaby-way of-thinking that concludes that God still speaks today. Thus the decision to stay or go should be based on the revealed will of God in a persons life. You are correct that many pastors stay too long and certainly a great many leave too quickly. I have perhaps done both in my life…lol. I considered leaving my current church a few years ago when I was going through the fire. I ultimately decided to stay and fight and boy am I glad I did! One should never make a decision to quit because of discouragement. One of my friends and counselors gave me this advice: “Make sure that you’re not running away from something but rather that you’re running towards something”. Oklahoma’s own Preacher Hallock would ask, “Do you have a promise?”
God has clearly given our church a unique ministry to broken and hurting pastors. In addition to myself and my assistant, we have six other pastors who have been led to join us and serve alongside us. All of them came to us with their share of “bad” experiences. Some have formal leadership roles in our church and some are just hanging around. In addition, our little church has two students currently in seminary and two more on the way. We just commissioned and sent out last month our first IMB missionary family. I share this only to make the point that we know a little something about discouraged pastors. I suppose the presence of these pastors (whom we could never afford to pay) also proves God’s ability to provide skilled laborers for the field. Perhaps it’s another indication that operating a church God’s way will produce positive results. Sorry for the long rambling answer…Ask a pastor–get a sermon! (smile)
While I’m sure there are insurance concerns, we would love to put a nice inground pool at our church. Where the community would come just like they would anywhere else. We’d have life guards, a concession stand, etc. While our actual building is modest, we have eleven acres in a popular area. Hmmm, where to go for Baptisms’s?
…a swimming pool….I like that! Maybe you could do the whole recreation park thing with your acreage. I could see the pool, baseball fields, soccer fields, etc. You could be “REC Church”!
”GIVE AND IT SHALL BE GIVEN YOU,” applies to churches as well as to individual believers.
When I shared some food with my neighbor on Saturday, Tuesday I had food bought for me.
I’M LIVING ON 657 A MONTH HAVE HAD 3 HEART ATTACKS, HAD TO RETIRE FROM PREACHING.
Dr. Paul W. Foltz
Dr. Foltz, Thanks for reminding us of the promise. May God bless you for your years of service that continue to this very moment. Guidestone has a program to provide assistance to pastors like yourself who are unable to continue in the ministry and yet find themselves living lean. My own father who pastored small churches throughout his ministry has been able to receive some of that blessing. Let me suggest that you contact Guidestone and let them know of your situation. There may be resources available.
Author Dr. Paul W. Foltz
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Brother David, Thank you for the advice, I will e mail them. I too, have served small churches over the lifetime of my ministry. Thank you so much for caring.
Dr. Foltz: Go to http://www.missiondignitysbc.org to get information about the program, how to qualify, and who to contact. In my opinion, this is one of the best things Southern Baptists provide.
i am only 63, not 65 and have served independent and southern baptists, not long enough to qualify, need 10 years in SBC CHURCHES, served mostly in independent Baptists. But thank you for caring enough to help.
Great word.
I teach what I call the “super-tithe.” This is my own corny way of phrasing the following thoughts:
The Jewish Scriptures (of course: the OT) taught the Jewish people to tithe. Anything less was robbing God. The first Christians were Jewish. The First Christians taught and modeled generosity. “Generosity” can only exist in a Jewish context “above” the tithe. Hence, I think the NT teaches something we might call a “super-tithe.” That is, generosity calls us to go above and beyond the OT benchmark.
(I may be semantically off–I think “supra-tithe” is actually the way to encapsulate my thoughts more accurately, but I was saying super-tithe before I thought it out properly and most people don’t know the difference between supra- and super- [including me!] so I will just stick with my original.)
I don’t mean to “bind” us to the law as opposed to being motivated by sacrificialy love, but I think the OT tithe is an instructive benchmark for what minimal generosity might look like.
“Crazy Love” should take us far beyond the tithe.
Together in the Task,
Shane
Shane,
One does not give the Tithe, he merely turns it in. Not to do so is stealing funds not belonging to you. The Tithe is The Lord’s.
Yoou give freewill offerings above the Tithe.
Brother Paul,
It seems that using any of the money entrusted to us in a way that does not honor God is stealing as God is the owner of all, not just 10% of our material possessions. I would add that this goes for our bodies and time as well.
Peace to you my brother,
From the Middle East
Amen to my Brother in the Middle East. He is the owner of All.
It is His by creation, and by Redemption.
First, He has made all things.
Adam, who was God’s viceroy, fell and lost everything to the devil. And When Christ died on the cross, Satan was defeated, and everything was bought back by Christ’s Death.
HALLELUJAH FOR THE CROSS…..
I believe the that Tithe is Old Testament Law that Jesus has fulfilled. To impose a legalistic 10% rule in churches is exactly the situation Paul preached against in Galatia of trying to add laws/rules to the Gospel. 10% is a good GUIDELINE. If we are going to enforce the tithe law, what other dietary and ceremonial laws are we going to enforce also? The Word says if we are going to live by the law, we are slaves to it, and if we offend at one point we are guilty of breaking it all. The Bible tells me that I have been set free from the law of sin and death (Romans 8).