Cultural Engineering in Church
Posted by David Rogers in Church & Missions
The Bible says we are to be “all things to all men so that by all possible means [we] might save some” (1 Cor. 9:22). As cross-cultural missionaries, we normally take this to mean we should learn the language and culture of the people to whom we believe God has sent us, and seek, as much as possible, to adapt culturally in our everyday lifestyle to the context around us. The same Bible also instructs us that, as members of the Body of Christ, we are to be unified, and not let such things as race, sex, and social class divide us one from another (Gal. 3:26-29; Eph. 2:11-22; Col. 3:11). Sometimes, however, these two biblical principles can appear to come somewhat into tension with each other with respect to the everyday life of local congregations.
In the Catholic parish system, all of the “faithful” living within a certain geographical area are typically “assigned” to the local parish of that same area. Thus, the parish (or “congregation”) is made up of a representative cross-section of the people living in that area. If, for instance, the Catholic population of a given geographical area is culturally diverse, the make-up of the local parish will normally reflect the same cultural diversity as the neighborhood in which it is located. If different languages are spoken, many times, masses are held in different languages at different times in the same church building, in order to accommodate everyone.
In a free church system, like that of most Baptist congregations, church members are not normally “assigned” to a certain congregation as a result of geographical location. They are free to choose the church they will attend and become members based on considerations of personal preference.
As much as we might like to pretend that such is not the case, it is my contention that, barring the introduction of a “parish” system similar to that of the Catholic church, certain decisions regarding the way we “do church” will almost automatically determine the overall demographic make-up of our congregations.
One of the most obvious is music style. For example, a church that regularly features Southern Gospel music is not likely to attract many people who prefer hip-hop, and one that features hip-hop is not likely to attract those that prefer classical music. And, a church that tries to offer a diverse mix of styles is just as likely to alienate people on all sides as to attract a greater variety of attendees. However, there are other factors, besides just music, that can influence the demographic make-up of the people who will end up becoming regular attendees of a local church.
The following are four “church planting” scenarios, based on a mixture of fact and fiction, in which the tension between reaching out to those of other cultures and the practice of Christian unity is brought into play. Personally, I am still wrestling in my own mind with the implications of all this, and am not totally sure what I think regarding each and every situation. I would be interested, though, to hear your reaction or suggestions in response the following scenarios:
1. A suburban mega-church in the United States takes on the vision of sponsoring an inner city church plant. A leadership team from the mother church is commissioned, and others from the mother church are encouraged to join on as part of the initial core group, if they feel God leading them in this direction. After a few meetings with those who show an interest in forming the initial core group, an announcement is made discouraging those in the core group from inviting their “yuppie” friends to the new church plant, since they would not fit in with the “target group,” and might make those from the “target group” feel uncomfortable. Some of the core group, however, are offended by this suggestion, believing that a church, by definition, ought to be open to any and to all.
2. An African American pastor takes on the vision of planting a multi-cultural congregation in a racially mixed neighborhood of a large city in the Deep South. One of the stated goals in the vision statement of the congregation is to provide a Christian testimony of racial reconciliation and harmony to the larger community throughout the city. After the first three years of public meetings, the make-up of the fast growing 500-member congregation is 75% White, 20% African American, and 5% Hispanic. In the meetings of the racially mixed church leadership team, a healthy debate takes place over what steps the church needs to take in order to attract a higher percentage of African Americans.
3. A team of two American missionary couples moves to a small city (50,000 pop.) in southern Europe, with the vision to plant the first-ever evangelical church in the city, starting from zero. After two years of extensive and diligent evangelistic efforts, the first people to respond positively to the gospel are a middle-aged woman with mild psychological problems who is interned at the local mental hospital, and two immigrant families, who are generally discriminated against by the local majority population. The missionary team is perplexed as to whether they should begin public meetings with those who have responded, or whether they should hold off until others who are more representative of the local population respond to the gospel.
4. A missionary team in a large South American city does a demographic study of the overall population and the numerous evangelical churches already present in the city. On the basis of the study, they reach the conclusion that wealthy, professional class people are significantly underrepresented among existing churches, and thus decide to target their church planting efforts towards this population segment. With a view towards attracting those from this group, a large amount of money is used to rent a conference room at a luxury hotel for Sunday services. Among the first evangelistic activities planned is a talk on leadership skills and success in life and business by a famous high-budget Christian motivational speaker. Little by little, a small congregation reflecting the demographic make-up of the “target group” begins to come together. However, in private, one of the missionaries on the church planting team struggles with gnawing doubts about whether or not this is the way Jesus would choose to go about ministry in that city.



David,
Let me get this out of the way before I begin. I disagree with your first statement. In 1 Corinthians 9 the Bible does not say that we are to be all things to all men… I do not disagree that we should, but there is a difference between what the Bible commands and what Paul gives us as a clear example. That was just one small point of contention – I do not disagree that we should be all things to all men. I just disagree that the Bible commands it in that verse.
Anyways,
You have some interesting examples and questions. But I think ultimately they are the misapplied. When Paul said that he became all things to all men, I doubt that he had in mind what type of church buildings he was going to build. I get the impression from the context of that verse that Paul was talking about how he related to each type of person that he was discipling/witnessing to.
What I mean is, when Paul said he became a Jew to the Jewish culture, I don’t think he meant that he opened a synagogue to attract Jews to himself. I do, however, think that delved into the Jewish culture – becoming like “one of them” but different. The difference being Christ. It wasn’t about what type of music he liked or what color skin he had. I don’t even really think it was about demographics, apart from the fact there there were certain demographics within the areas that he existed.
Let me see if I can explain the difference between what I see Paul doing and what I see “us” doing.
Example: Big City has 3 races living within it’s borders, Mexican, Italian, and French.
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What we do:
Build three church buildings for each demographic –
One that has Mexican preaching, Mexican Music, etc.
One that has Italian preaching, Italian Music, etc.
One that has French preaching, French Music, etc.
–OR–
Build on church building with three separate services –
one for French, one for Italian, and one for Mexican.
–OR–
Assume that these three demographics share a common language, build a single church building and just change up the music, some Mexican, some French, and some Italian.
By the way, all these have separate programs for the differing demographics as well.
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What Paul did:
When he was in a group of Mexicans, he lived like a Mexican. When he was in a group of Frenchmen, he lived like a Frenchman. When he was in a group of Italians, he lived like an Italian. And, I assume, if he was in a group of both, he showed them by his example how to live in unity in the cross-cultural setting.
By the way, Paul’s method of discipleship would have allowed him how to teach this multicultural area how to be united with each other, instead of further separated by worldly things like building and music styles.
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I don’t see Paul trying to “attract” a demographic. I see Paul going out into the culture and allowing himself to change depending on where he is… regardless of where he is. It’s not about music or building styles… it’s about the people.
By the way, I am absolutely no good at being all things to all men… and I understand that what I have described is not only extremely difficult, but it will also be seen as extremely dangerous.
God’s Glory,
Lew
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Granted we can do better but I’m not sure why you need to take an example from a religion that fails the test of Christian orthodoxy?
Lew,
Always with “buildings” on the mind. As you noted in your exception with the use of 1 Corinthians 9, where does David even mention “building” as being representative of “church?” The nearest that I see that David even talks about the specific meeting place is in scenario 4 where a “hotel room” is used for a meeting place. The local “church” always meets somewhere together face to face – in a building built for the purpose, a home, in a cave, or on a mountainside. Why is it always inferred (by you of all people) that it is a “church building”? For one whose philosophy has determined that “buildings” are not the “church” you sure do have them on the mind.
John,
Can one use any example as illustrative without the claim that the example is not worthy enough? Analogies are never perfect, right?
Rob
Lew,
Of course, you are right, the Bible does not directly “command” us to “be all things to all men.” But, as I read it in context, if we are to really be faithful to God’s calling in our lives, neither does it leave us the option to take Paul’s example here as merely optional. Also, immediately after giving this personal example of his own ministry philosophy, Paul states, in v. 24, “Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize.” This, coupled with Paul’s injunction in 1 Cor. 11:1 – “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ” – leaves me to conclude that 1 Cor. 9:22 can well be received by us with the force of a command.
Anyways (as you say), on to the meat of your comment…
Of course, the NT doesn’t say anything to us about church buildings (other than synagogues, private homes, the temple courts, and the lecture hall of Tyrannus). They didn’t have them back then. But, then again, I don’t recall saying anything about church buildings in this post, either. Neither does it directly address the question of music styles (beyond mentioning “psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs”).
There are, however, principles in the NT that I believe we can transfer over and use in our thinking related to these questions. Your examples of what Paul did, as opposed to what we do, seem to me to focus in on the one aspect of personal discipleship, without really taking into account questions of group dynamics. I think that, as we think about “church,” we must take both into account.
We do have the example of Acts 6, in which the believers seem to have specifically chosen men with Greek names to attend to the matter that was provoking cultural tension within the group.
Also, I see that Paul specifically did “target” the Jews in the first part of his ministry, and in the first part of his visit to some towns, before turning to the Gentiles.
Of course, in the end, I agree with you that it is not about music or building styles, but rather, the people. But, when we get into the lives of real flesh and blood people, it seems to me that such things as music and building styles come into play. The kingdom of God is not about food and drink. But the Jerusalem church appointed 7 men with the specific purpose of overseeing the distribution of food.
John,
I am assuming you are referring to the example of the Catholic church. Is that right? I should make clear I am not advocating following their model, but rather using the different way they organize themselves as a “foil,” if you will, to stimulate our thinking about the way we organize ourselves.
Unfortunately however, using an example of a system that is not orthodox with no caveat to indicate otherwise, leads the reader to believe that there is no fundamental doctrinal difference. Granted, while not overt, your post today says that Romanism is in, they’re in the fold, we can learn from them. David, I’m glad you’re not advocating their model and I trust my brother that you’re not advocating their “gospel.”
And I am a fan of the Holy Hip Hop.
John,
If you click on the following link, and read the post, including the comment stream, I think you can get a pretty good idea of where I am coming from, in relation to the RCC. Sorry for any misunderstanding what I have written here might have caused.
http://loveeachstone.blogspot.com/2008/06/keep-away-from-rome.html
In any case, I would also counter that we can learn from a very broad pool of sources, even including those who are wrong on some foundational issues. However, we must always be discerning, and compare and contrast what we might learn from others with God’s revelation in Holy Scripture. Also, I think we must remember, specifically in regard to the RCC, that historically, their roots go back to the same place as those we claim for ourselves. While they evidently have added many things, and gotten off track along the way in many aspects, is it not possible, at the same time, that a remnant of truth, at least in some aspects, may have survived in the midst of all the change? I think that an objective search for truth would at least leave us open to consider this possibility.
David,
I must say that at first reading I did not believe you were advocating Romanism so I went back and read again. I still did not see any advocacy of RCC doctrine but merely a very clear use of a system in practice.
What I really hope this discussion will target is “How should the four scenarios be handled?” I struggle with the reality of “trying to become all things to all men that I might reach some” without alinating some already in the church.
Thanks for your stimulating blog.
Steve,
Thanks for steering us back to the main thrust of the post. I would indeed love to get some feedback and/or suggestions responding specifically to the four scenarios, or even any one of them taken separately.
Since I may the the only Catholic reader of SBC Impact, I feel I should jump in here.
Obviously we have significant doctrinal differences with Baptists. This is probably not the time or place to discuss them. I will say, though, that most of the Catholics I know regard Baptists as brethren in Christ and we look forward to seeing all of you in heaven. I apologize if any of my Catholic brethren have not been good witnesses to you.
That said, let me address the topic at hand. First, to my knowledge Catholics are not “assigned” to parishes. You can go to Mass wherever you like, even there is another parish closer to your home. Many people do this for a variety of reasons. But you’re right that the typical parish mainly reflects the makeup of its neighborhood.
We tend to serve language groups by having different services at one parish. This may be easier for us than it is for you because most priests are fluent in multiple languages. I’m not sure how common that is in the SBC.
At my parish, we always have a bilingual service on Good Friday. The English and Spanish-speaking people sometimes forget about each other even though we worship in the same building and have the same pastor. This brings us together at an important time of the year.
There are, however, parishes in the U.S. that are designed specifically to serve certain ethnic groups. We have a Vietnamese parish in my city, for instance. Vietnamese people can go there for mass in their own language, or they can go elsewhere if they wish. It exists to serve those who need it.
I think it is important to note that, unlike the SBC, all the Catholic parishes in a city are under one bishop. They aren’t independent of each other. In effect, each diocese is one church with many locations. The bishop is supposed to observe the situation and establish parishes, chapels, student centers, and other facilities where they are needed. This means you usually won’t see two Catholic churches in close proximity to each other. It would be a duplication of resources and normally isn’t necessary.
I hope this adds something to the discussion. Blessings to all of you.
Patrick
David thanks for the clarification! And, sorry that the Gospel took us off discussion
Patrick, I’m glad you read SBC Impact and it’s good to learn a bit more about your religion. According to your own Council of Trent however, we are not brothers in Christ but we are an anathema. And I boast in Christ that I am honored to be designated as such.
In Christ…(alone), sorry man had to throw that one in
John
Patrick,
Thanks for your contribution, and explanation of the Catholic perspective on these questions. The reasons you give are precisely why I chose to put the word “assigned” in quotations, by the way. However, as I understand it, regardless of the particular mass one chooses to attend, he/she is considered to be a “member” (and thus the spiritual responsibility of the local parish priest) of the particular parish in which he/she resides. Is this not correct?
Also, I wonder if everyday practice, in relation to these questions, is a bit different in a country like the USA, with so much religious plurality, than one with a significant Catholic majority. I’m not sure, just asking.
Also, while I appreciate your magnanimous spirit in recognizing us as Baptists (and Evangelicals, in general) as brethren in Christ, I would respond that true fellowship in Christ hinges on one’s personal relationship to Jesus and the gospel He taught, and not the particular denomination (be it Catholic, Baptist, or whatever) with which he/she is affiliated.
In any case, I do sincerely appreciate your contribution here, and the spirit behind your comment.
David,
I totally agree that we should follow the example of Paul… and that we should try to be all things to all men. It was just a minor contention that the Bible does not command this of us.
All(ish),
My example of building buildings was merely an example of what “we do” versus what I see Paul doing. It was not at all the focus of my comment.
I was ultimately trying to point out the fact that what we normally do usually has the effect of dividing people up (by demographic) rather than uniting them. Paul didn’t try to attract non-believers with their music or their customs. Paul submerged himself inside their lives and culture to show them Christ.
God’s Glory,
Lew
David,
Yes, one is supposed to “register” at whatever parish you regard as your own. In my experience this consists of filling out a little card and dropping it in a box. I think this is mainly for record-keeping purposes and, as you say, so the pastor knows he is supposed to take care of your needs. There may be different practices outside the U.S. I only know what I have seen here.
As for the other issues you and John raised, I don’t want to hijack your post here. I’m willing to discuss those matters elsewhere if you wish, or privately by e-mail.
Lew and Patrick,
Cool. Thanks for your comments.
Everyone,
Any feedback or suggestions on the 4 scenarios?
David,
This is not a direct response to the 4 scenarios, but is a similar one. I was the first pastor of a new church start in Wyoming. Some of the founding families had a particular kind of church in mind when they began. Their vision was to reach the affluent. (Was not really communicated to me.) Of course the affluent are a worthy target group, but early on God began to bring people to our ministry who were not affluent. One day one of the founding members made this statement: “Why do we have so many needy people in our church?” I was shocked, hurt, and a little mad. In 2 1/2 years we went from 12 members in a storefront to 50 members, and that many in worship, with our own facility on five acres of land.
Dr. Steve Wilkes at Mid-America was my advisor for my D.Min. He reminded us that the building of a church was a sovereign work of God. The shape, size, culture of a church may not always be what we thought when we started.
Steve,
Kind of reminds me of something Jesus talked about one time…
“Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come. “Then he sent some more servants and said, ‘Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet.’ “But they paid no attention and went off—one to his field, another to his business. The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them. The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city. “Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come. Go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.’ So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, both good and bad, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.”
Matthew 22:1-10
Aaarrrggghh! I just wrote an individual response to each of the scenarios and when I hit submit it was gone! Here is the short version:
If the Holy Spirit has truly led each of the planters/missionaries to reach the target group then I have no problem with the “Limited Yuppie Strategy” (Scen 1), the meeting to discern how to more ebony to the ivory (Scen 2) and holding off on public worship until you have a core group that seems likely to reach your target (Scen 3). In Scenario 4 the missionary needs to deal with his own personal calling to this particular mission.
Each of these situations may also offer opportunities to start OTHER ministry points. A good example would be Scenario 3 or 4. Attract your more affluent professional target by offering them a place to “do good” and serve the outcast and the less fortunate. A church near us is in a very professional and affluent community. They have grown and reached this sometimes hard to reach group in part by offering them an opportunity to fee hungry people, clothe the poor and visit the prisoners. Seems like I have heard that kind of a strategy “suggested” before!
Finally, each of these situations should be decided in prayer. While I have no problem running off too many Yuppies for the sake of the mission I also know we need to seek God’s will on the matter. It’s just like our Father to reach the unreachable using the unlikely!
Chuck,
Thanks for your thoughtful comments.
To be honest, I have kind of struggled with the idea of a “mystical call” to reach one particular people segment as over against another one. I’m not saying it could not happen, or that it never does. But, it’s hard for me to separate between personal whim, and the voice of God, when it comes to subjective things like this, about which the Word of God (or the voice of logic basing off of biblical principles) does not give us clear direction.
Please don’t take me as being overly skeptical about this, though. I’m just trying to be honest thinking through how you know God has called you to reach one people segment as opposed to another. Any further suggestions or ideas?
David,
I think that where you are located has a lot to do with how you address this issue. In my city of Montgomery, AL, we are about 50-50 white and black. I went to dinner tonight and sat in a restaurant that was racially mixed. Everyhwere that I go I interact with black people, even though I am white. To NOT do so would be strange, yet most churches are racially segregated because of “cultural” concerns. I’m not buying it, especially when we see that the horizontal effect of the gospel was that dividing walls between races would come down (Ephesians 2:11-21) and that in Christ there is neither male, female, Jew, Greek, Barbarian, Scythian, Slave, or Free. 2 Corinthians 5 tells us that we are all in Christ and Christ is in us all – therefore, since we are new creations in Christ, we are to regard no one from a worldly point of view. Dividing over racial distinctions is regarding others from a worldly point of view, I believe.
Of course, we do not say that we divide over racial, economic, or class issues. We say that people just follow their preferences and in a free church tradition, there is not much that we can do about that. But, what if our preferences are based on fear, selfishness, and sinful prejudices? At what point are those preferences confronted? Should all of our Christian experience bow to consumerism?
What it comes down to is that I believe that this is a gospel issue. Our culture cannot be stronger than our Christianity and Biblical Christianity tears down dividing walls – it does not reinforce them because of preference. I think that in the quest to reach more people, we often water the gospel down to a point that people have to change very little. If we properly understood the gospel as being the message of reconciliation between both God and man as well as between man and man, I don’t think that we would be so quick to nurture seperation for the sake of evangelistic effectiveness. I have no problem with specific ministries targeting groups of people, but I guess that the idea that churches would be intentionally made up of just certain social, economic, or ethic classes – well, that just is not what I see in Scripture and it seems to weaken the message that Jesus proclaimed, especially in a country as ethnically diverse as America.
A good book on this subject that I am reading is called Consuming Jesus by Paul Louis Metzger. Look it up on Amazon. It is enlightening.
Wow. Alan, that is so right on target. Thanks for that.
Alan,
Thanks for your insights and your convictional leadership on these questions. I have been both blessed and challenged by what you have written on related topics over at your blog. I hope to eventually get and read the Metzger book as well. Thanks for the suggestion.
I am wondering whether you think the approach of the leadership team in Scenario #2 (we should be pro-active in seeking racial diversity within a local congregation) or that of those within the potential core group in Scenario #1 (a church should be open to any and to all, and we shouldn’t try to artificially “engineer” the cultural make-up of a local congregation) is more Scripturally correct? Any further suggestions?
David Rogers,
Sorry that I did not address the scenarios initially. I would have to go with scenario #1, if I had to choose. I think that if we live in a racially mixed city, then a proper Gospel witness requires us to be intentional in living out that witness. Of course, we cannot be responsible for the results, but we can make sure that our hearts are propely aligned with God’s heart. If the
Gospel proclaims racial unity and our churches in racially mixed areas do not, then are we really preaching the Gospel?
As my friend, Paul Littleton quoting Scot McKnight says, “the gospel you preach produces the church that you have.” Maybe we need to make sure that we preach the right gospel.
Alan,
As I continue to think through the implications of all of this, I think there is something to be said for Lew’s observation in comment #13: “Paul didn’t try to attract non-believers with their music or their customs. Paul submerged himself inside their lives and culture to show them Christ.”
However, in the whole discussion on “incarnational” vs. “attractional” ministry styles, I think the issues are too often posed as a matter of “either-or,” rather than “both-and.” That is, I think all solid Great Commission efforts will end up having both “incarnational-missional” aspects, and also “attractional” aspects. As I understand 1 John ch. 1, for example, our community one with another (v. 7) is a necessary platform for our witness to those still outside of this community (v. 3). There must be a certain “attractional” aspect about our community one with another that draws others to want to form a part of it as well.
Looking at it from this perspective, I think it is perhaps legitimate to tailor our approach to different cultural preferences in the more “incarnational-missional” stages of ministry. We must go to where they are currently at culturally, and identify with them, in order to gain a hearing for the message we are presenting. However, in our discipleship efforts, and the more “attractional” aspect of our ministry, we should intentionally move people toward a more united and culturally diverse community life, in which the barriers that formerly separated new disciples from others, begin to come down.
Exactly how this all plays out in the practical day-to-day of church planting and pastoral ministry, though, is a different question that would require a good bit more time and space to develop more fully.
Here is an interesting article related to this same topic at CNN.com, entitled, “Why many Americans prefer their Sundays segregated.”
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/08/04/segregated.sundays/index.html?eref=rss_topstories